david: president obama visiting a michigan auto plants today discussed in a fiscal crisis. our next guest argues in the long run they could see strong auto sales if ther there's no d% all. joining us now, edmunds.com chief economist. good to see you. how would we be better off if we go for the fiscal cliff at least in auto sales? @> we're better off because we're taking hard medicine now. do we want pay now and better later, or suffer now and not be better off later. lots of fixing to do. if we get a stronger growth path for taking more heart medicine now, that bodes well for the entire economy including auto sales. david: your bi are basically wht a compromise compromise will not solve anything. right? >> or worse, some that just extends the uncertainty. eventually compromise anything. no compromise at all because that is what is killing us right now, we're just played with this vast amount of uncertainty. business is almost paralyzed afraid to move forward with hiring, investing and is paralyzing the whole economy really been abll to move forward. david: how many folks ar